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Agreed. 👍👍😊😊

Feel proud as indian 🇮🇳😇

Heh, as modern bikes go, I rather like the look. Has a nice athletic build and I like the gold/green bits. They all get carried away with spray painting everything black, so those bits are par for the course. You should have seen the 1250. I have no words to describe what the hell the designer of that thing was going after. If it wasn't hideous enough, they'd add silver pipes all over the damn thing. Looks like the bike crashed into an aluminum ladder.

I rode the 1300gs a month ago and didn't like it at all, not comfortable at all and it leans over too much on the side stand so difficult to lift. Compared to my 1250gs, its garbage.

i definitely see what you mean about the styling. I think I'm used to that appearance whenever I think about adventure bikes, but now you're pointing it out some of those odd plastic components do really make it look like like a poorly shaped jigsaw puzzle. Then again, as Darcy said, the plastic is probably to bring the weight down and isn't necessarily there for the looks. However, for its price, I would expect every piece of the bike to look like its molds together. Better yet, sometimes less is more. Stripped back old fashion adventure bikes are great, although riding them at highway speeds is a battle against the wind, which is where the plastic panelling on newer models can be handy. Regardless, definitely gets the job done, powerfully and beautiful engine, and looks are definitely down to how other adventure bikes look by comparison across competing brands.

Test rode 1200 or 1250, cant remember which. Thought it was a large lumpy snooze fest. Not what biking is all about in my book.

I usually agree with the Old Man, but I must admit, when it comes to BMW's, I think we may think slightly differently. First and foremost, the bike has to do what you want it to. Otherwise, it will be a dud. The GS does exactly what someone looking for a large adventure bike is after and more. The R18 falls short. When I buy a cruiser, I am looking for style, but above all, comfort! The boxer engine has always written that bike off for me right away. I like to relax and stretch out on a cruiser, and the engine is simply in the way. Looks wise. I love all types of bikes but usually don't like adventure bikes. This GS in that BEAUTIFUL green with the gold wheels looks stunning. It reminds me of the Kawasaki Z650RS, and that is another beaut of a bike. The R18 is 90% beautiful, but that engine, for me, ruins that bike. I'm sure others love it. But I do think it's the engine turning most people off.

I'm 6 ft and 220 lbs, would I look goofy on this bike? I really want one.

I've bought, once, a pretty nice helmet from XLMOTO. The "pin-lock" got scratched while I tried to dust off some tiny littering - with a micro-fiber cloth for glasses ! - A gentle touch, and a scratch !!! The customer service at XLMOTO told me that I - myself did it - so NO replacement ! On the other hand - I, without producing any scratches, many times, removed stuff from pin-locks on other helmets, using paper napkins, towels, fingers.... ! So obviously the plastic on the helmet from XLMOTO was tooooo soft. Well, after that, I never did, or going to buy a helmet from them again 🤷‍♂🤷‍♂ Several other items were also with different issues / deformations.

ADV bikes are the worst of both worlds. They feel like crap if you’ve ever ridden a sport bike, and they feel like your blowing around on stilts I’ve you’ve ever ridden a cruiser. And going actually off road? Oh please.

what is the motorbike in this video?

No shipping to US 😐👎

Regarding the R18, BMW designed and build a bike that was fundamentally wrong top to bottom! They just wanted please their egos instead of designing and building a proper bike that could sell and compete with Harley. Dealers here in the US cannot get rid of them New, so they put them in a Demo program to sell at huge discounts. Harley wanted get in to the GS market and BMW wanted get in to the Grand America Touring market and both failed. Stick with what you know best is the lesson they should learn out of this experience.

This bike has a lot of strong points. The question about looks is subjective. I can see the beauty in it, as I can do the same about the R18. Both bikes agree with me in terms of looks, because I like very different things about bikes in general. The riding experience is different too, from bike to bike. This tall bikes have the virtue of visibility in city traffic or on the highway. And they overcome all the irregularities of the roads, A or B roads, everything is easy with those machines. A different exemple is the Triumph Scrambler 1200 XE, it is in the Adventure bike segment and the looks are substantially old school aesthetic values, very beautiful too. The decoration on this BMW,1300 GS is good but I would prefer the trophy version. The golden handlebars and rims on the Tramuntana version are not my cup of tea and I don’t care so much for the bits and bobs of the 719 parts option. Last week I went to Harley Dealership, to see their stunning bikes, the 2024 modern and sporty Fatbob, the Low Rider ST was there too, promising sunny afternoons of joyful rides…I just love every bike . Keep on bringing them to the channel, whatever kind you choose to show here on the channel. I know it will be fun. Thank you.

I'd be realy curious of what you guys would think of a yamaha scr 950

Like the new style of videos - keep on bringing them!!

I hope manufacturers realize these smaller bikes are a lot cooler with kickstarters on them. That's the reason I haven't bought a Grom yet.

This bike is not for everyone. My mom(67yrs old 5'7") rides a 1250GS. She has 60k miles on her 2020. She's looking at upgrading to one of these. You can't get her to ride anything else. She loves the power and visibility she has riding it.

I respect adventure bikes because they're fantastic tools, but they're absolutely not for me. I just don't get the allure

Nice vid. Interesting to see the comparison. Having had a Speedmaster for a couple of years now I love it, but it has it's faults. I was hoping the Shotgun/Meteor 650 would address those and it would be just as good in other ways, but, for me, it's just not. I think the Shotgun/Meteor 650s are excellent and great value, but the Speedmaster is a class above. More characterful and capable. Though you sure pay for that difference. Much like the Triumph 400s vs RE 350s, given the differences in the bikes and the prices I don't think they really compete/compare (though certainly, like me, some will want to see for themselves). For those wondering about my gripes with my beloved Speedmaster: Fuel range (small tank, big engine), suspension (short travel bottoming out) and need for a lot of clutch work (1200cc torque/power). I wish they did a Speedmaster with the T100's engine, gearing and suspension. I think only that would get me off my Speedy. Come to think of it... I might try a T100 sometime and see how I feel...

I almost bought an 08 nightster. But like the handling of the Buell Ulysses better. I do ride a lot of dirt roads.

Loved the video, gents! Cool format

I have a 1250 and don’t think the 1300 is ugly. I do however feel that BMW have considerably missed the mark with the design and it really lacks presence. The new frame and headlight design are both steps back for me. The price quoted is for a base model, whereas almost everyone opts for the TE version and this including some further options takes the price to well over £20k. The final downer is the design and function of the new luggage 😢

the old man reminds me of my grandmother....she'd wait to talk until she had her mouth stuffed full of food and then start a conversation. unfortunately, she has long since passed on.. thanks for the memories. 🙃

I'm a huge adventure bike fan and I love a GS me, but I do agree with you on the looks of the R1300GS, not for me either. Just a small correction - that bike you borrowed is the Tramuntana version and it's over £22,000 not the £16,500 you mentioned (that's for a fictional basic GS that I'm not sure actually exists in reality!). Enjoyed your video, I'm glad it's not just me that gave the new GS a thumbs down! ....FWIW I also agree it's a fabulous bike to ride!!

Good old Castle Ashby. Where else in the UK can two motorcyclists chat with a bike & get tutted at for parking there, and three tourists wander down the drive without anyone muttering..? The local VSCC used to hold 1/8th mile sprints down the drive every autumn, too. Nice relaxed video vibe, chaps.

We are terrorized by the same ugly design for more than twenty years now. Bikes are completely drawn by computer programs. Not only for the best streamline or fuel consumtion, but also what the majority of the customers like. Insect like design. Probably the reason why I still not part with my 1995 bike.

Have mine two years in September, 14,000 miles, GREAT bike, fast and oh so agile, one of hd's best!

Nice to see you still have the Jimny. 75k kms on ours now and hasn’t missed a beat. Fantastic little cars

Glad you finally rode one. I have one and love to ride it.... and I love the look too. Beauty is in the eye of the beholder as you stated. So for me it is a win win. I have a triumph as well and love the look of it. But when I compare the ride.. it is night and day. It is like comparing a Cadillac Escalade to a Toyota Carolla. I love both.. but the ride from the GS is far superior in every way possible. I mean.. if I want to I can go 140 km in 2nd gear. Torque is incredible. The overlap in the gear range is great too. Where as with the triumph.. you better Be in the right gear or it will clunk out. Not to mention all the stuff you can carry. I don't go off roading. But for long road trips there is nothing better. You have the comfort, power, and capacity of a Goldwing.. but super agile. I can go over a speed bump at 60km per hr and not even feel it. You do that on another bike and you will fly off. Personally I don't like the old style you referred to. Anyways.. thanks for reviewing. Would be good if you got a chance to see what it is capable of.

The old man reviewing modern bike videos must continue!

The general question after this episode in my opinion is: Is the looking more important than riding capability? 😊

its ugly like all adventure bikes also transformer ugly bikes honda ,yamaha, ktm ,my bikes mv agusta brutale 800 ,modded t100,one can have performance with looks

What if there was a Freddie dobbs and MD + Old man road trip from the new forest to the Cornish coast, stopping off at godrevy light house and the little cafe that isn’t to far away for a traditional breakfast 👌

Bit off topic lads, anyone been to see the bike riders yet in at cinema?

I love mine 2023 Low rider ST Fast johnnie.

Agree the GS is ugly - slightly less so than its predecessor - but then that is not saying a lot!!

I had an R1200GS. It was a phenomenal bike for exploring the Nevada desert. I did drop it in a ditch one time that took me almost an hour to get it back upright. I agree the 1980s GS was far better looking. All that plastic is ugly. I currently have an R1250RT which isn’t great looking but is by far the best bike I’ve owned in 54 years of riding. My Moto Guzzi V7 Stone is the bike I take out most often.

The number of indignant GS riders in the comments is hilarious 🤣🤣🤣

It's hard to imagine that the GS and the R18 come from the same company

Not the best looking bike, Ducati Desert X is sexy but ADV bikes are functional,practical bikes for adventure riding.

Flip up helmets and gray textiles and gray beards. Plastic ugliness.

I really like the look of retro bikes, but I can see beauty here as well. Perhaps in a generation this will be the retro people pine for.

The GS is the bike if you like to ride 😎

@Mr Darcy @ The Ol' Man: Thank you for this content! Because I'm at home in both worlds I always find it very entertaining watching you guys sharing your perceptions of modern motorcycle looks 😅 Yes, even in Germany "nobody" buys a R18. Obviously BMW did not get the bike quite right. The R nineT was spot on and sold like hot cake. I like the R 12 nineT, but the bigger star for me is the R 12. The standard version in black (not the bling bling version Darcy rode). It feels very close to a spiritual successor of the Iron 883, even pricewise. I'm 55, it might be a coincidence, but the owners of the few R 18s I saw were all "old" men. Like I've never seen a 30 - 40 year old on a W800. The R 20 might change things though.

I enjoy owning a bike I like the looks of hence no BMW appeals to me. But I can see the place for all types of bike including ADV's and Cruisers.

I think the bike is absoluetly hideous. The plastic dont bother me but just the shape of it. Its ugly like bad ugly.

4:08 and no doubt it will make your wallet a lot lighter😛

The r18 is nice bike but just really expensive new. And I think its an acquired taste with the cylinder heads sticking out as far as they do, so it has a wide footprint when riding and limits some of its filtering ability. The r18 is more about style and feel and is more of a fancy style of bike. Great bike just limited in its uses somewhat and for the price I think that turns people off now a days.

Overpriced and overhyped imo.Thank you fellas.👍